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What is confusing me is that a 6.0L does not match up to a 4R100 transmission. It requires a 5R110 (also called a 5R110W).

All 6.0L engines came with a 5R110 transmission.

The PCM of a 6.0L contains the TCM,....and it would not know how to control a 4R100.
 

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mark my excursion is 2003 6.0 l powerstroke with a 4r100 transmission remember that this year was when the 6.0 started so you find them with both engines I asked you several questions regarding fuel pump transmission injectors and something else I am waiting for your Answers that have been very useful to me once again, thank you very much
I answered those questions earlier. Not sure why you can't see the answers. Anyway, I will repeat them below.
 

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The 06 injectors can be used in the 03.

The 03 injectors can be used in the 06, but you may not want to do that. There were many improvements to injectors over the years that increased their reliability,

The fuel pumps (HFCM) are the same for all model years.

As stated above, ALL 6.0L engines came with the 5R110 transmission and any of them can be used in any model year.

If you truly have an 03 Excursion with the 4R100, then I can't explain it.
 

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Los inyectores 06 se pueden utilizar en el 03.

Los inyectores 03 se pueden usar en el 06, pero es posible que no desee hacer eso. Hubo muchas mejoras en los inyectores a lo largo de los años que aumentaron su confiabilidad,

Las bombas de combustible (HFCM) son las mismas para todos los años del modelo.

Como se indicó anteriormente, TODOS los motores de 6.0L venían con la transmisión 5R110 y cualquiera de ellos se puede usar en cualquier año de modelo.

Si realmente tiene una 03 Excursión con la 4R100, entonces no puedo explicarlo.
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Injectors 06 can be used in 03.

The 03 injectors can be used in the 06, but you may not want to do that. There were many improvements to the injectors over the years that increased their reliability,

The fuel pumps (HFCM) are the same for all model years.

As stated above, ALL 6.0L engines came with the 5R110 transmission and any of them can be used in any model year.

If you really have a 03 Tour with the 4R100 then I can't explain it.
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mark, I thank you very much for all your clarifications, they have been very useful to me, the reason why I wrote to you asking about the transmission change was because, as I told you before, my truck has 258 thousand miles and I thought to improve it in all possible areas and the transmission is one of them I live in the south of Florida in a transmission workshop they told me that they could give me a 5r110w that was better than mine after your clarification call the dealer with the vin number and it is indeed like you You have really said that I thank you very much for all your time and your clarifications that have been very useful to me
 

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Yeah, the later 5R110's had a few improvements over the early ones. They will all "interchange" though.
 
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Yeah, the later 5R110's had a few improvements over the early ones. They will all "interchange" though.
I have been looking at different suppliers to buy the cover on the front of the engine where the low pressure oil pump goes, there is one that you can recommend, also on certain occasions the digital control of the ac turns off and after a short while when I turn off The engine and I turn it on again, I don't know what it has, you have an answer for that, I appreciate it very much
 

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I buy my parts from Auto Nation White Bear Lake. For parts like the Front Cover, I stay with OEM (Motorcraft) parts.

Your problem with the A/C randomly shutting off is probably the battery saver circuit in the Instrument Cluster (also called the Hybrid Electronic Cluster - or HEC). Mine does the same thing. I can simply turn the head lights on and off and it will restore the proper function of the A/C. Eventually that little trick" will fail to work. When that happens, I will send the Instrument Cluster in to Circuit Board Medics for repair. They do excellent work. They will repair the Cluster and change out any bulbs in the "Dash Panel" that are bad. It would be a good time to ask them to upgrade your Instrument Cluster to all LED lights, if that appeals to you.
 
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I buy my parts from Auto Nation White Bear Lake. For parts like the Front Cover, I stay with OEM (Motorcraft) parts.

Your problem with the A/C randomly shutting off is probably the battery saver circuit in the Instrument Cluster (also called the Hybrid Electronic Cluster - or HEC). Mine does the same thing. I can simply turn the head lights on and off and it will restore the proper function of the A/C. Eventually that little trick" will fail to work. When that happens, I will send the Instrument Cluster in to Circuit Board Medics for repair. They do excellent work. They will repair the Cluster and change out any bulbs in the "Dash Panel" that are bad. It would be a good time to ask them to upgrade your Instrument Cluster to all LED lights, if that appeals to you
mark what happens with the front cover of the 6.0 is that my engine is 2003 and I want to use a 2006 water pump and motorcraft does not do that so I asked you if you recommended me to someone regarding the excellent ac your information as always but I would be very grateful if you could write me the name of all the parts that I must send to repair thanks for everything
 

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mark what happens with the front cover of the 6.0 is that my engine is 2003 and I want to use a 2006 water pump and motorcraft does not do that so I asked you if you recommended me to someone regarding the excellent ac your information as always but I would be very grateful if you could write me the name of all the parts that I must send to repair thanks for everything
 

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For the A/C problem, all you need to send in is the Instrument Cluster. That is the same as the dash panel with all of the gauges. It is more than gauges, it is an electronic control module also and the relay that fails is one that is soldered into one of the printed circuit boards.


To change the Front Cover, you also need to change the front engine oil seal.

Parts list to upgrade FROM the 03 front cover, TO the 04 front cover, a new lower radiator hose, and coolant overflow Degas Bottle hose. The 04 front cover will accept the 06 water pump.

The 04 front cover: part # 4C3Z-6019-C
(NOTE - do NOT use the smaller 03 water pump with this front cover. It will fit, but not pump water adequately)
Front cover seal kit: part # 4C4Z-6020-AA
Front crankshaft seal (and wear ring): part # 3C3Z-6700-BA
Degas Bottle Lower Hose: part # 5C3Z-8075-CA
Lower Radiator hose: Depends on if you have 4WD or not:

04-07 4WD (Lower Radiator hose) 4WD​
5C3Z-8286-DH​
04-07 2WD Lower Radiator hose) 2WD​
5C3Z-8286-A​

Cheapest price for OEM parts:

Front seal and wear ring install tips:​
FreedomRacing.com sells the removal and installer tools (Stallion Tools)​
Seal Wear Ring Removal tool: OTC 303-762 or ST-130 (Stallion Tools)​
Seal Installation tool: OTC 303-761 or ST-107 (Stallion tools)​
 
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For the A/C problem, all you need to send in is the Instrument Cluster. That is the same as the dash panel with all of the gauges. It is more than gauges, it is an electronic control module also and the relay that fails is one that is soldered into one of the printed circuit boards.


To change the Front Cover, you also need to change the front engine oil seal.

Parts list to upgrade FROM the 03 front cover, TO the 04 front cover, a new lower radiator hose, and coolant overflow Degas Bottle hose. The 04 front cover will accept the 06 water pump.

The 04 front cover: part # 4C3Z-6019-C
(NOTE - do NOT use the smaller 03 water pump with this front cover. It will fit, but not pump water adequately)
Front cover seal kit: part # 4C4Z-6020-AA
Front crankshaft seal (and wear ring): part # 3C3Z-6700-BA
Degas Bottle Lower Hose: part # 5C3Z-8075-CA
Lower Radiator hose: Depends on if you have 4WD or not:

04-07 4WD (Lower Radiator hose) 4WD​
5C3Z-8286-DH​
04-07 2WD Lower Radiator hose) 2WD​
5C3Z-8286-A​

Cheapest price for OEM parts:

Front seal and wear ring install tips:​
FreedomRacing.com sells the removal and installer tools (Stallion Tools)​
Seal Wear Ring Removal tool: OTC 303-762 or ST-130 (Stallion Tools)​
Seal Installation tool: OTC 303-761 or ST-107 (Stallion tools)​
 

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Mark has honestly been a blessing for me that you take the time to answer all my questions, your answers have been very helpful to me, I bought the fuel pressure regulator called the blue spring with Rudy's performen, I do not know if it is a good choice for me. I would like to hear your opinion like the fuel pump that you recommend I put the oem or 'I put one of the accessories market and been looking at and there are several what I can not understand is what is the benefit with the 200 gallon pumps for time if you could explain me I would appreciate it thank you very much for everything
 

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I have a pretty heavy tune on my engine and the OEM pump still works just fine for me. I do not believe that many people need an aftermarket fuel pump. Only if you have heavily modified injectors do you need an aftermarket fuel pump.

The "Blue" regulator spring is a VERY good upgrade.

In my opinion, EVERY owner of a 6.0L should install a fuel pressure sensor and gauge. Low fuel pressure can ruin injectors. There are MANY things that can cause low fuel pressure, so watching the pressure is important. Fuel pressure must NEVER drop below 45 psig, in fact I prefer a 50 psig minimum. Unfortunately fuel pressure sensors and gauges are expensive. I can help recommend some if you are interested.
 
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I have a pretty heavy tune on my engine and the OEM pump still works just fine for me. I do not believe that many people need an aftermarket fuel pump. Only if you have heavily modified injectors do you need an aftermarket fuel pump.

The "Blue" regulator spring is a VERY good upgrade.

In my opinion, EVERY owner of a 6.0L should install a fuel pressure sensor and gauge. Low fuel pressure can ruin injectors. There are MANY things that can cause low fuel pressure, so watching the pressure is important. Fuel pressure must NEVER drop below 45 psig, in fact I prefer a 50 psig minimum. Unfortunately fuel pressure sensors and gauges are expensive. I can help recommend some if you are interested.
 

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A couple of additional points about the 2006 engine:
1. The EGR cooler is prone to failure (way more so than the 2003 model year).
2. The oil rail components (under the valve covers) on the 2006 are more prone to leakage.

If anyone has a totally stock 2004.5 or later model year, I ALWAYS advise them to get an EGR cooler from BulletProofDiesel. The later model OEM (Ford or International) EGR coolers are junk in my opinion.

In 2004.5, the new "wavy" oil rails were introduced. The standpipes and dummy plugs in these oil rails were VERY prone to leaking. Ford came out with improved parts that worked VERY well. Now, it seems their quality on remanufacturing may be slipping. I would install upgraded dummy plugs and standpipes in any 2006 engine that I was working on.


Additionally, the Ford Gold coolant is the source for the VERY, VERY common occurrence of plugged oil coolers. If any of the engines still have Ford Gold coolant, then I would flush the coolant systems MANY times with distilled water, and then put in an EC-1 rated ELC (Extended Life Coolant) coolant. My two favorite coolants for the 6.0L are CATERPILLAR ELC (diesel) coolant, and Rotella Ultra ELC Coolant.
 
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A couple of additional points about the 2006 engine:
1. The EGR cooler is prone to failure (way more so than the 2003 model year).
2. The oil rail components (under the valve covers) on the 2006 are more prone to leakage.

If anyone has a totally stock 2004.5 or later model year, I ALWAYS advise them to get an EGR cooler from BulletProofDiesel. The later model OEM (Ford or International) EGR coolers are junk in my opinion.

In 2004.5, the new "wavy" oil rails were introduced. The standpipes and dummy plugs in these oil rails were VERY prone to leaking. Ford came out with improved parts that worked VERY well. Now, it seems their quality on remanufacturing may be slipping. I would install upgraded dummy plugs and standpipes in any 2006 engine that I was working on.


Additionally, the Ford Gold coolant is the source for the VERY, VERY common occurrence of plugged oil coolers. If any of the engines still have Ford Gold coolant, then I would flush the coolant systems MANY times with distilled water, and then put in an EC-1 rated ELC (Extended Life Coolant) coolant. My two favorite coolants for the 6.0L are CATERPILLAR ELC (diesel) coolant, and Rotella Ultra ELC Coolant.
 

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[QUOTE="Excurcion diesel, post: 1422757, member: Mark and I have seen several videos where he talks about putting the fan of the engine from 7.3 to 6.0 I would like to hear your opinion and your agreement that year of 7.3 would be used, thank you very much and as always I appreciate your opinions
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