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There are separate Ford Dodge and GM models. They allow you also to scan and clear codes, datalog your runs, and playback, does performance, 0-60, etc. Many capabilities, and is plug and play. Just plug into the obd port, and no wire splicing required.

Each gauge also has inputs for 2 other analog sensors, you scale the signal.

I personally love these for diagnosis. Want to see how effective your "cold" air intake is? IAT does not lie. :)

A1A-GM Supported Parameters (PID’S)
1. INTAKE AIR- Intake Air Temperature - **
2. COOLANT TEMP- Engine Coolant Temperature **
3. TRANS TEMP 1- Transmission Temperature for automatic gas vehicles
4. TRANS TEMP 2- Trans temp for some vehicles made from ’94-’97.
4. RPM- engine Revolutions Per Minute **
5. MAF SENSOR LB/M- Mass Air Flow (lbs/min) **
6. MAF FREQUENCY- raw Mass Air Flow sensor output (frequency)
7. MAF FREQUENCY 2- raw MAF sensor output for the Cobalt SS and Redline
8. MANIFOLD PSI- Manifold Air Pressure (psi) **
9. THROTTLE POS. PCT- Throttle Position percentage (0-100%)
10. THROTTLE VOLTS- Throttle Position sensor output (0-5 volts)
11. MILES PER HOUR- Miles Per Hour **
12. KNOCK RETARD- Knock Retard (degrees) for most GM vehicles
13. KNOCK RETARD 2- used for KR value of ’94-’97 LT1’s and some 96/97 V8’s.
14. KNOCK RETARD 3- used for knock retard value of the Cobalt SS SC and Redline
15. IGNITION ADVANCE- ignition timing advance
16. PULSE WIDTH- injector #1 pulse width (4&6 cylinder engines)
17. SHORT TRIM B1-short term fuel trim bank#1
18. SHORT TRIM B2-short term fuel trim bank#2
19. LONG TRIM B1-long term fuel trim bank#1
20. LONG TRIM B2-long term fuel trim bank#2
21. OXYGEN SENSOR B1-O2 bank 1 sensor in millivolts
22. OXYGEN SENSOR B2-O2 bank 2 sensor in millivolts
23. RUN TIME MINS- engine run time is tenths of seconds since last engine start **
24. BATTERY VOLTAGE- Alternator/battery output voltage **
25. IAC POSITION- Idle Air Control counts (position of Idle Air Control valve)
26. PULSE WIDTH B1-injector Pulse Width for bank 1 (8 cylinder engines)
27. PULSE WIDTH B2-injector Pulse Width for bank 2 (8 cylinder engines)
28. ENGINE LOAD- calculated Engine Load (0-100%) **
29. ENGINE OIL PRESSURE (some 8 cylinder engines) **
30. INTAKE AIR 2 – Intake Air Temp. downstream of intercooler (some supercharged
applications such as the Cobalt SS, Ion Redline).
31. TRANS TEMP AL- Allison transmission temp, Duramax and Workhorse
32. TORQUE CONVERTER SLIP AL- Allison transmission converter slip, Dmax and WH
33. TQ TO TRANS AL- Engine torque delivered to trans, Duramax and Workhorse
34. INJECTOR RAIL PRESSURE DESIRED DM- Duramax
35. INJECTOR RAIL PRESSURE ACTUAL DM- Duramax
36. THROTTLE PCT DM- Throttle percentage- Duramax
37. THROTTLE VOLTS DM- Throttle sensor voltage- Duramax
38. FUEL LEVEL DM- Duramax
39. INJECTOR FLOW RATE DM- Duramax
40. Miles Per Gallon 1- instantaneous fuel economy for gas vehicles
41. Miles Per Gallon 2- instantaneous fuel economy for diesel vehicles
42. HP 1- Calculated net horsepower for gasoline vehicles
43. HP 2- Calculated net horsepower for diesel vehicles
42. Analog 1 – analog input #1.
43. Analog 2 – analog input #2
44. TOTAL MISFIRES- Total misfires of all cylinders. Resets every minute.
45. BAROMETRIC PRESSURE- limited support on standard GM vehicles, DM support

added some more TD parameters

46. Main inj PW
47. Pilot injection PW
48. Main Timing
49. Pilot Timing
50. Desired Boost
51. Actual Boost
52. Desired Turbo Vane Position
53. Actual Vane Position
54. Desired Fuel Rail Pressure
55. Actual Rail Pressure (diagnose filter clogs)
**These parameters are also supported by the Duramax
 

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Those sound like some very nice gauges. Do you have an estimated cost for them yet? What year models do they work on, what functions work on what vehicle and is three the most you can have (not that I would need three but who knows)?

Very clean install as well.
 

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right now, 2 is the max number that can be run simultaneously on the bus.

Let me know what year/model, and I'll check. Should be good through the last 5 years anyway. just depends

single $239
double $399
 

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The Ford Gauge will be available early august.
Dodge is on the way also.

The 06 and later duramax gauge will also be shipping in August.

Michael
 
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Let us know when the '07 guages are out for LBZ, I like seeing a traditional needle guage, but the functionality/practicality of these guages exceeds that.
 

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Ford will be here in 2 weeks.

LBZ should be here in a few days. If you want to pre-order, let me know what colors you want, and I will be sure to get them first. Just drop me a PM.

I think they are a hoot, a good compliment to EFILive. I too had to get used to losing the swinging orange needle, kinda like switching to lowfat milk.
 

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Any idea if these would work with an OBS Ford? 1996 to be specific...

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How about a 99 SD? Would the price be the same? What parameters can be measured?
 

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here is a list of vehicles. But basically, if you have an OBD port, then you can use the scan gauge. That standard began in 96 with some vehicles, and was mandatory in 97 (IIRC). The list is not necessarily comprehensive.

Look here


While a gauge is available for Ford and Dodge (and will work) we are trying to refine some of the diesel specific parameters and PID's for inclusion. For example, injection timing is a different ECM parameter than spark timing.
 

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Would there be any chance that these guages measure ICP for the powerstrokes?
 

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Is there an ICP sensor on the stock vehicle? Ifyes, then it can be displayed. If not, then if you have a 5V reference sensor, there are 2 analog inputs that the gauge can process. You can even custom label the parameter.
 

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Yes the Ford gauge has ICP, IAT2, etc. Ford Gauges will be shipping next week. Dodge is still a few weeks away.
 

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killerbee said:
There are separate Ford Dodge and GM models. They allow you also to scan and clear codes, datalog your runs, and playback, does performance, 0-60, etc. Many capabilities, and is plug and play. Just plug into the obd port, and no wire splicing required.

Each gauge also has inputs for 2 other analog sensors, you scale the signal.

I personally love these for diagnosis. Want to see how effective your "cold" air intake is? IAT does not lie. :)

A1A-GM Supported Parameters (PID’S)
1. INTAKE AIR- Intake Air Temperature - **
2. COOLANT TEMP- Engine Coolant Temperature **
3. TRANS TEMP 1- Transmission Temperature for automatic gas vehicles
4. TRANS TEMP 2- Trans temp for some vehicles made from ’94-’97.
4. RPM- engine Revolutions Per Minute **
5. MAF SENSOR LB/M- Mass Air Flow (lbs/min) **
6. MAF FREQUENCY- raw Mass Air Flow sensor output (frequency)
7. MAF FREQUENCY 2- raw MAF sensor output for the Cobalt SS and Redline
8. MANIFOLD PSI- Manifold Air Pressure (psi) **
9. THROTTLE POS. PCT- Throttle Position percentage (0-100%)
10. THROTTLE VOLTS- Throttle Position sensor output (0-5 volts)
11. MILES PER HOUR- Miles Per Hour **
12. KNOCK RETARD- Knock Retard (degrees) for most GM vehicles
13. KNOCK RETARD 2- used for KR value of ’94-’97 LT1’s and some 96/97 V8’s.
14. KNOCK RETARD 3- used for knock retard value of the Cobalt SS SC and Redline
15. IGNITION ADVANCE- ignition timing advance
16. PULSE WIDTH- injector #1 pulse width (4&6 cylinder engines)
17. SHORT TRIM B1-short term fuel trim bank#1
18. SHORT TRIM B2-short term fuel trim bank#2
19. LONG TRIM B1-long term fuel trim bank#1
20. LONG TRIM B2-long term fuel trim bank#2
21. OXYGEN SENSOR B1-O2 bank 1 sensor in millivolts
22. OXYGEN SENSOR B2-O2 bank 2 sensor in millivolts
23. RUN TIME MINS- engine run time is tenths of seconds since last engine start **
24. BATTERY VOLTAGE- Alternator/battery output voltage **
25. IAC POSITION- Idle Air Control counts (position of Idle Air Control valve)
26. PULSE WIDTH B1-injector Pulse Width for bank 1 (8 cylinder engines)
27. PULSE WIDTH B2-injector Pulse Width for bank 2 (8 cylinder engines)
28. ENGINE LOAD- calculated Engine Load (0-100%) **
29. ENGINE OIL PRESSURE (some 8 cylinder engines) **
30. INTAKE AIR 2 – Intake Air Temp. downstream of intercooler (some supercharged
applications such as the Cobalt SS, Ion Redline).
31. TRANS TEMP AL- Allison transmission temp, Duramax and Workhorse
32. TORQUE CONVERTER SLIP AL- Allison transmission converter slip, Dmax and WH
33. TQ TO TRANS AL- Engine torque delivered to trans, Duramax and Workhorse
34. INJECTOR RAIL PRESSURE DESIRED DM- Duramax
35. INJECTOR RAIL PRESSURE ACTUAL DM- Duramax
36. THROTTLE PCT DM- Throttle percentage- Duramax
37. THROTTLE VOLTS DM- Throttle sensor voltage- Duramax
38. FUEL LEVEL DM- Duramax
39. INJECTOR FLOW RATE DM- Duramax
40. Miles Per Gallon 1- instantaneous fuel economy for gas vehicles
41. Miles Per Gallon 2- instantaneous fuel economy for diesel vehicles
42. HP 1- Calculated net horsepower for gasoline vehicles
43. HP 2- Calculated net horsepower for diesel vehicles
42. Analog 1 – analog input #1.
43. Analog 2 – analog input #2
44. TOTAL MISFIRES- Total misfires of all cylinders. Resets every minute.
45. BAROMETRIC PRESSURE- limited support on standard GM vehicles, DM support

added some more TD parameters

46. Main inj PW
47. Pilot injection PW
48. Main Timing
49. Pilot Timing
50. Desired Boost
51. Actual Boost
52. Desired Turbo Vane Position
53. Actual Vane Position
54. Desired Fuel Rail Pressure
55. Actual Rail Pressure (diagnose filter clogs)
**These parameters are also supported by the Duramax
Awesome! Time to buy!
 

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I am placing a new order today, to include Waynes long awaited LBZ set.

If you have a preference on color let me know.
 

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Just wanted to see if anyone got these gauges and if so how they like them. Sounds like a cool idea, but for an OBS Ford I am not sure all the parameters listed are in the pcm/tcm, etc.

Thanks
 
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