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Ok im sure this is posted in the wrong area but im not sure where to put it. My new truck will be a 2011 F350 so thats why i put it here..did a search but didnt find anything.

Does anyone know if it is possible to install a V tailgate and retain the rearview camera?

I suppose I could weld a bracket and so forth but curious if anyone has done this before.
 

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dont know what the connections are, on the tailgate, but it might
be easier to install a NEW <generic> camera, rather than tear the
original tailgate apart.
 

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the cameras use a generic 2 wire RCA plug...very common stuff &
certainly there are 100s of cameras that can EASILY be plug & play'ed
or quickly adapted to a new gate or switched to a location other than the
factory tailgate.

a high quality surface mount color camera can be had for less than 100 bucks,
more realistically 60 bucks should provide satisfactory resolution !

http://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/reverse-image-back-up-cameras.aspx
 

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I chose not to use my V gate so I could keep the camera. Keep us informed I you came up with a solution.
I have no choice, Im transporting RV's and as I understand it I may not use my stock tailgate, and must use a V gate for 5th wheels. This might vary from company to company will update when i know more.

I got the camera option because I figured it would make loading trailers much easier.
 

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again nothing stopping you from installing a DIFFERENT camera...lots of options and
if you cant do it yourself, most any GOOD car audio tech should be able to do this !
 

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The camera is great for backing up empty but is really set up for a traditional hitch not a 5er. When tailgate is down you see nothing but the ground. There are several services found on this forum and others that allow two cameras to feed into the Ford dash unit, either one of which can be on 100% of the time, not ust in reverse- great for seeing what is going on behind the back of the towed trailer.

Yes you can take tailgate apart and mount it on a relatively flat surface of you V tailgate. Never done it, seems like a lot more work than buying new. Camera wires come out of the bottom of the tailgate and into a plug behind the bumper. Get wiring diagram for all wires coming out of the harness from Ford, this forum, or the folks you buy the camera from - they should know, and either map the aftermarket camera to a new plug you buy from Ford (so you can put the forf tailgate back on, or a splitter/plug you design.

I can't believe a V is a must have, but it guarantees that you won't ruin it because you forget to put it down pulling into or out from under 5er - been done many times before.
 

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The camera is great for backing up empty but is really set up for a traditional hitch not a 5er. When tailgate is down you see nothing but the ground. There are several services found on this forum and others that allow two cameras to feed into the Ford dash unit, either one of which can be on 100% of the time, not ust in reverse- great for seeing what is going on behind the back of the towed trailer.

Yes you can take tailgate apart and mount it on a relatively flat surface of you V tailgate. Never done it, seems like a lot more work than buying new. Camera wires come out of the bottom of the tailgate and into a plug behind the bumper. Get wiring diagram for all wires coming out of the harness from Ford, this forum, or the folks you buy the camera from - they should know, and either map the aftermarket camera to a new plug you buy from Ford (so you can put the forf tailgate back on, or a splitter/plug you design.

I can't believe a V is a must have, but it guarantees that you won't ruin it because you forget to put it down pulling into or out from under 5er - been done many times before.
John - Do you have links to any products that tap into the Navigation screen? I want to install a camera on the back of the trailer and don't want to have a second screen inside the cabin.
 

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best deal im seeing on the net for the ford handle w/ camera is about 400 bucks :eek: :damnit
'course youd have to figure out what to do w/ the tailgate that its still in (sold as a package).

theres a good write up on Ford-Trucks that some one has done, identifying all
the wires and the signals of each (btw the lines red/yellow/green distance lines
you see on the screen are part of the CAMERA - so unless you use a ford
camera you'll give up those distance markings....the lines may not mean anything
if you reposition the camera anyway)
 

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EpicCowlick,

I know I have seem something much more recent, but what I had hard copy of is of a vendor
www.http://www.tvandnav2go.com
at their website they say:
"We are the Car Tv Navigation specialists for you. Our company specializes in Navigation TV (Nav TV) conversion units and mobile video systems that give you the ability to easily integrate an external A/V source to your vehicles OEM navigation system. You can connect an in car DVD player, mobile tv, VCR, mobile satellite tv, video game console, rear view backup camera, computer or any other mobile video device and display it on your OEM car tv screen. The TVandNav2Go Nav video interface features dual video inputs, one of which can be activated automatically when shifting the vehicle into reverse (usually used with a back-up camera), it also features complete control settings for brightness, as well as a series of DIP switches that are configurable for each car video navigation system. Many of our products at this time are available as plug and play solutions. So whether your needs are for a car dvd player, rgb converter, car mobile video, car navigation gps, in car dvd, car tv, car electronics, or car entertainment of any kind we have what you will need. We also offer vehicle specific diagrams for non plug and play vehicles that make installation very simple. Our technical support team is available Mon-Sat from 8AM-5PM EST to answer any and all of your technical questions. We can be reached at 718-763-7367 or email us at [email protected]"

I initially found all of this at TurboDiesel forum:
http://turbodieselforums.com/community/index.php?showtopic=209&st=20
sometimes page shows up as fordpowerstrokeforums.com???; it used to be very active but dropped silent about 9 months ago and says very little about the 6.7.

The post from that site said:
"I just came across these fellas for the back up camera integration into the existing nav/radio system

Kurt wrote:
I have a 2008 F450 with the nav system, I would like to install a backup camera for and use the existing screen is that possible and do you have the system, thank you kurt


Hi
the mod for that car is $400 and you have to send in the radio. This will give you 2 video inputs 1 for dvd and 1 for backup camera. Feel free to call me at 718-763-7367.
Thanks Dominic

TvandNav2go [[email protected]] "

Hope thus does the trick for you EpicCowlick.
 

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best deal im seeing on the net for the ford handle w/ camera is about 400 bucks :eek: :damnit
'course youd have to figure out what to do w/ the tailgate that its still in (sold as a package).

theres a good write up on Ford-Trucks that some one has done, identifying all
the wires and the signals of each (btw the lines red/yellow/green distance lines
you see on the screen are part of the CAMERA - so unless you use a ford
camera you'll give up those distance markings....the lines may not mean anything
if you reposition the camera anyway)
If I do actually end up replacing my tailgate with a V gate I'll look into remounting my original camera. I should know in a week. No reason to by another camera really if I can use the old one.

If I end up modifying this to fit a Vgate I'll post the results.
 

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Epic Cowlick,

Found it:

http://www.coastaletech.com/synclockpick.htm

allows your passenger (and you if you have 2 sets of eyes) to use all nav features when driving too.

I am pinging both of them for thelatest myself.
Thanks. I'm going to contact them and see if they figured out how to integrate a 2nd video camera into the existing NAV system. I know that as of last month it was not possible yet but rumors say Coastaltech is close to releasing a version that will do what we need.
 

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you should be able to add a 2nd camera and use a switch to select which camera
you want (since the monitor apparently only has one camera input/source).

the problem as i understand it is their will be a delay (2-5 seconds) for the camera
to "warm up" or power up & produce a signal if 12v is not applied to the camera all the time.

apparently ford keep the camera "hot" all the time to avoid the signal input/video delay
 

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Thanks. I'm going to contact them and see if they figured out how to integrate a 2nd video camera into the existing NAV system. I know that as of last month it was not possible yet but rumors say Coastaltech is close to releasing a version that will do what we need.
i agree - i'll get one if it lets me add a 2nd camera with the factory cam. then i may add a switch to toggle between one in the front (for the wife for parking :rolleyes:) and one looking down into the bed for [future] GN hook-up.

or, if it's able to control 2 aftermarket cams now, then if they get an additional camera to work w/ the factory cam, why couldn't you add 2 additional cams?
 

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i agree - i'll get one if it lets me add a 2nd camera with the factory cam. then i may add a switch to toggle between one in the front (for the wife for parking :rolleyes:) and one looking down into the bed for [future] GN hook-up.

or, if it's able to control 2 aftermarket cams now, then if they get an additional camera to work w/ the factory cam, why couldn't you add 2 additional cams?
I just got off the phone with Coastaltech and they confirmed that they DO NOT currently have this option. They are working on it however and said that they expect to be able to add not one extra camera to the factory navigation but three or four additional cameras. This would be really cool for those who want to switch in real time between the camera off the back of their trailers, inside their trailers, in the bed of the truck, etc. This will be very cool when available which he said was within 60 days.

I offered to be a beta tester but he didn't bite. ;) We just have to hang on a bit and pay attention to any announcements on their website. This will be a very cool and highly integrated option for those of us with the factory navigation. The other huge plus is that the system offers all the unlocking features as well.
 

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I just got off the phone with Coastaltech and they confirmed that they DO NOT currently have this option. They are working on it however and said that they expect to be able to add not one extra camera to the factory navigation but three or four additional cameras. This would be really cool for those who want to switch in real time between the camera off the back of their trailers, inside their trailers, in the bed of the truck, etc. This will be very cool when available which he said was within 60 days.

I offered to be a beta tester but he didn't bite. ;) We just have to hang on a bit and pay attention to any announcements on their website. This will be a very cool and highly integrated option for those of us with the factory navigation. The other huge plus is that the system offers all the unlocking features as well.
yep, thats what they told me last friday. and just keep checking back :happymugs
 

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yep, thats what they told me last friday. and just keep checking back :happymugs
It's good that several people keep calling them. Keep the pressure up! It will be a great feature when it's available.
 

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It's good that several people keep calling them. Keep the pressure up! It will be a great feature when it's available.
i really would like to set up a camera to hook up my 5er, and keep the tailgate cam also !! and maybe put one on the front. the 450s are a little tall in front !!!hehe.
 
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