[BLACKKW]

"Power rating can run anywhere from 450 CV all the way up to 950 CV { few can hit over 1000 CV but limited class"

What do you mean by CV ???

 

[french277]

"Power rating can run anywhere from 450 CV all the way up to 950 CV { few can hit over 1000 CV but limited class"

What do you mean by CV ???

The CV = HP

The real word here Cheval-vapeur = Horsepower it is translated from French to Engish.

Merci,
Marc

 

[Tutu'z Garage]

Great Lakes Diesel Engines in New York are putting out 1,000hp 3408 twin turbocharged engines for highway & competition...they don't come cheap...

 

[379Longhood]

I have read 12 pages of this post in know what a 3408 is, I do not know what a KT or KTA is, and I am not to sure what a 1693 is, if some one could fill me in that would great.

I like the debate

and the stories

A 1693 Cat is the pre 3406 six cylinder, without looking it up I think the displacement is about the same as 3406 , overhead cam precombustion ,jacket water aftercooled about the same turbo as a 92U precombustion 3406 , they were usually 375 or 425 HP and responded well to hotrodding in their day they were a force to be reconned with .

A little more on the KT its down fall was seperate cylinder heads and its massive weight as well as more torque than the drive trains of the day could handle

Hey I also noticed we stayed on topic on this one

 

[french277]

A 1693 Cat is the pre 3406 six cylinder, without looking it up I think the displacement is about the same as 3406 , overhead cam precombustion ,jacket water aftercooled about the same turbo as a 92U precombustion 3406 , they were usually 375 or 425 HP and responded well to hotrodding in their day they were a force to be reconned with .

A little more on the KT its down fall was seperate cylinder heads and its massive weight as well as more torque than the drive trains of the day could handle

Hey I also noticed we stayed on topic on this one

La conversation de moment de torsion notant presque tout le KT'S sur lequel j'ai le travail ils est notée plus de 2,000 livres fttq se sont si attendues voir que peu de prises brûlent en haut ou déformé ou destoryed par trop de moment de torsion.

Le dernier KTTA je l'ai le jeu d'oringally pour 800 + le CV, mais je doit le rejeter dû je brûlant saisis en haut trop de moment de torsion

Speaking of torque rating almost all the KT's I have work on they are rated more than 2,000 lbs fttq so expected to see few clutches burn up or warped or destoryed by too much torque.

The last KTTA I have it oringally set for 800+ CV but I have to turn it down due I burning up clutches too much torque

Merci,
Marc

 

[ynot]

Hey, a 109R-A1 Vtwin has 4.5 bore two cylinder gas bike motor. The biggest production piston on highway gas in the US today oh look, a bunny rabbit :happydance oke (so could not resist that ya know )

 

[SmokinCAT]

Hey, a 109R-A1 Vtwin has 4.5 bore two cylinder gas bike motor. The biggest production piston on highway gas in the US today oh look, a bunny rabbit :happydance oke (so could not resist that ya know )

LOL, you sure you took the right medicine today? oke

 

[french277]

LOL, you sure you took the right medicine today? oke

LOL

Désolé je ne peux pas juste manquer l'amusement pour un instant!!!!

Sorry I just can't miss the fun for a moment !!!!

Merci,
Marc

 

[Jfaulkner]

Great Lakes Diesel Engines in New York are putting out 1,000hp 3408 twin turbocharged engines for highway & competition...they don't come cheap...

Your right, it will cost you probably around $20k more than the engine was originally supposed to cost in lawyer fees just trying to get what you were promised. Then he will change the business name AGAIN and you'll still never get anything.

 

[kblackav8or]

Boy did the trash talk come out in this thread. As for V engines not having torque, that is a misnomer. It may be true in some of the configurations used in trucks but is not a rule. Locomotives have V engines and so do a lot of ships. Can't tell me they don't make huge torque. I think if I had to choose I would pick the KT over the 08'. Both engines are still made for industrial use I believe. An electronic QSK 19 has to be pretty impressive. The bigger cats too. I think the mystique of the 1693 might exceed reality. They burn a lot of fuel and are expensive to fix and have a fragile top end if you let them overheat. They do sound interesting but a pre-cup 3406 does too. There is that Pete with a 3412, that is a pretty impressive machine.

 

[Jfaulkner]

Boy did the trash talk come out in this thread. As for V engines not having torque, that is a misnomer. It may be true in some of the configurations used in trucks but is not a rule. Locomotives have V engines and so do a lot of ships. Can't tell me they don't make huge torque.

I understand what your saying but those are two bad examples. Neither applications require high torque which is why companies like EMD never really gives a torque rating on their engines, only HP.

 

[xxxxxV8Lenny]

Boy did the trash talk come out in this thread. As for V engines not having torque, that is a misnomer. It may be true in some of the configurations used in trucks but is not a rule.

True. Cylinder configuration has nothing to do with torque. It's more about bore/stroke ratio. If displacement and bore stroke ratio is same, 8 cylinder engine can have more valve area than 6 cylinder what means it can make MORE torque AND hp. Torque and hp are always related like everyone should already know...

 

[BarnhardMarine]

If I had my choice it would be a 1693 fuel just to damn expensive

 

[french277]

I understand what your saying but those are two bad examples. Neither applications require high torque which is why companies like EMD never really gives a torque rating on their engines, only HP.

Donnez-moi juste un couple de jours j'obtiendrai les figures de toqure que je sais que j'ai la liste quelque part, mais dois le déterrer.

Just give me a couple days I will get the toqure figures I know I have the listing somewhere but have to dig it up.

Merci.
Marc

 

[kpower600]

I wanna see the day you turn that thing into a sled puller and go after Dave Greek and all them guys to see what a hot caterpillar will do against them guys.

I know I have seen barnetts truck give them a run for their money on the right track, but I think your truck would surprise them. I know the KT we pull with is the best running mechanical truck we pull with, but the guy with the very hot E model makes us look stupid.

If you're going after this guy with a CAT, you better pack a lunch....

 

[379Longhood]

:sprayw

 

[Phantom 309]

Hey, a 109R-A1 Vtwin has 4.5 bore two cylinder gas bike motor. The biggest production piston on highway gas in the US today oh look, a bunny rabbit :happydance oke (so could not resist that ya know )

Bunny rabbit squashed by a chev truck with 502,. 4.466 bore,.(damn close to 4.5,.

I,d rather run over bugs bunny than pepe le pew,.

nick

 

[nevrenufhp]

If you're going after this guy with a CAT, you better pack a lunch....

I think we need some links to videos, and some engine pix! That almost looks too nice to be getting all dirty on a track, and not making money on the road pulling the heaviest loads around.

 

[kpower600]

Here's one from 2 years ago after the frame was shortened from the length shown in the previous thumbnail. The engine was also rebuilt at about the same time. This video was uploaded by the owner of the truck (KTA19 on Youtube). All the videos on his Youtube channel are of this truck and others that commonly run against it.

 

[SmokinCAT]

If you're going after this guy with a CAT, you better pack a lunch....

I agree completely, after seeing the luck both Barnett and cliff lick have had trying to do so, I believe that the only feasable way to try and compete is with a very built 3406E/C15-16. It seems to me that the mechanical cats are too tempermental at high HP levels.

Welcome to the garage as well, when ya get a chance check out the truck pulling thread.:happymugs